Possibly after that specific reason toward prolonged generations abruptly looking into the the new heraldry will come to help you light
In my opinion Tim would be send the fresh scans of your image so you’re able to their site, and will article one to relationship to the newest newsgroup.
Re: Wingfield Coats-of-Palms
relationships of your own users, (the fresh new Wingfields were investigated rather well, and you will despite my personal typo on Howard friends, I actually do have the pedigree truthfully annotated here in RI) >>
I am not sure that is a precise report. Do your own book address new age bracket *prior* to help you John Russell who e mom and dad out-of E Russell which meters Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn spouse out of Malise
We have another in order to complete a number of the gaps your let you know forthe higher-grandparents from Reginald ce Cheyne. One of several primaryadditions comes from his paternal grandma (NN on the article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de- Moray), cousin and you may coheiress regarding Freskinde Moravia from Duffus (their moms and dads Walter de- Moravia and Euphemia ofRoss are available below). You’ve got the concern regarding their maternalgrandmother: I hold she try Joanna de Menteith, second wife of Malise,Earl regarding Strathearn. This will at the least bring a virtually explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen of Strathearn (spouse successively ofReginald ce Cheyne, the father, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed having Helen de- Menteith, aunt regarding Joanna and you will spouse out of Sir ColinCampbell off Lochow (d. bef Can get 1343).
Regrettably, I do believe you can find extra holes in Muriel Keith’sancestry (come across bГ¤sta nationalitet fГ¶r amerikansk man att gifta sig med mannen below). Concerning possibly improvements suggested to the tablesbelow, excite suggest of any detailed issues, or just what documentationmight suggest one mistake noted.
You will find openings in both ancestries, however, fiercely in that away from Reginald.To have Muriel Keith, their higher-grandparents We show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I’m not alert to people paperwork supporting the identification with the mate since the Barbara Seton. When you have indexed people, please indicates.
3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander regarding /Fraser/ Chamberlain off Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (or de Brus), together with a beneficial young man John recognized as ‘nepos’ regarding Robert _the_Bruce. It child are a young John, although not, and never their heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord out of Aboyne, try the new son out-of a first relationship (this partner unknown; I’ve it into the authority away from Andrew MacEwen).
3 Walter de Moravia (child away from Hugh de Moravia, and you can Annabela off Fife) cuatro Euphemia away from Ross (dau. out-of Fearchar, initially Earl of Ross and you will NN deBrus)
5 Malise, 6th Earl from /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young buck away from Walter Stewart, Age away from Menteith and you may
This new consanguinity anywhere between Muriel Keith and you may Reginald le Cheyne -recognized to was in fact a-grandson off Malise, Earl from Strathearn (d.1312) – ‘s the only facts (in the event that secondary) why these a couple individualshad one predecessor/ancestress in keeping.
I have gaps in ancestries, but fiercely for the reason that regarding Reginald.To possess Muriel Keith, their higher-grand-parents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander from /Fraser/ Chamberlain from Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN
To possess Reginald ce Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , 2 NN, 3 NN, 4 NN5 Malise, 6th Earl regarding /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 and you may 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, very early 15the century, from inside the Leicestershire. Elizabeth are the latest d Villiers and you can Agnes Beler. Today, I do want to link Agnes so you’re able to Sir Roger Beler, killed of the Eustace de- Folville, however, I can not come across one facts about their own. Can anyone help?